{"id":1430,"date":"2015-11-23T17:12:14","date_gmt":"2015-11-23T17:12:14","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2021-08-03T16:42:51","modified_gmt":"2021-08-03T16:42:51","slug":"photographing-the-greatest-a-conversation-with-thomas-hoepker","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ourstories.shinola.com\/our-stories\/photographing-the-greatest-a-conversation-with-thomas-hoepker\/","title":{"rendered":"Photographing the Greatest : A Conversation with Thomas Hoepker"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Three limited edition prints of Hoepker&#8217;s Ali photographs accompany the watch along with a letter from Hoepker himself.&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Muhammad Ali is still to this day one of the best athletes in boxing history, notorious for telling the world he was \u201cThe Greatest.\u201d As an American icon known for more than just his brilliance in the ring, the trials and tribulations of his life were well documented in photographs over the course of his career. Countless photos show the fierce Ali in his boxing gloves, but few photographers had access to him in his personal life like German photojournalist Thomas Hoepker did.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Shinola interviewed Hoepker, who has more than 50 years of experience traveling the world capturing prominent subjects such as the Berlin Wall, Andy Warhol, New York on 9\/11, and what could be argued as his life\u2019s most important work \u2014 Muhammad Ali. The list of Hoepker\u2019s powerful images goes on, but he is best known for his black and white photograph, The Mighty Fist of Muhammad Ali, that he took with a Leica M (a camera he still uses today). With years of exclusive access to Ali, Hoepker\u2019s published many of his best photos in two books: CHAMP, which quickly sold out after the first edition, and BIG CHAMP, which was published this year.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think the Ali pictures have reached a certain status, you know, collectors are paying big money to get my original pictures, and he\u2019s become an important part of my professional life,\u201d Hoepker says. \u201cI did a lot of other things especially for STERN magazine and now for Magnum, but Ali really stands out as something that I always come back to.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>While on assignment for STERN, Hoepker began photographing Ali in London when he was matched against a German boxer in 1966. It wasn\u2019t until years later that Hoepker realized he\u2019d unknowingly photographed him while on assignment at the 1960 Summer Olympics, when Ali was still known as Cassius Clay. &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOnly years later did I look through my negatives, and I saw a picture of him when he had won the gold medal,\u201d he says.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>While in London, Hoepker worked with his wife Eva who wrote for STERN as a reporter. He recalls how the recently converted Muslim, Muhammad Ali, was shy to talk to a white woman, so they kept their distance. Beyond the gym, they followed Ali to places like the tailor where they watched him get fitted for his first custom suit.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Back home in Germany, the photos published of Ali were a hit and the athlete\u2019s fame had reached worldwide status, so Hoepker followed the champ back to Chicago. He captured many more candid images of Ali as they drove around the city. Shots range from Ali taking naps in the backseat, going to the barbershop, and hugging children on the street, to him training at the gym and jumping off a Chicago bridge with his shirt off. (Many of these photos are in Hoepker\u2019s second book.)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt was like a roller coaster waiting for the right picture,\u201d he says. \u201cYou couldn\u2019t plan anything with him, you had to grab the moment and be ready.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>[[{&#8220;type&#8221;:&#8221;media&#8221;,&#8221;view_mode&#8221;:&#8221;media_original&#8221;,&#8221;fid&#8221;:&#8221;1165&#8243;,&#8221;attributes&#8221;:{&#8220;alt&#8221;:&#8221;&#8221;,&#8221;class&#8221;:&#8221;media-image&#8221;,&#8221;height&#8221;:&#8221;686&#8243;,&#8221;title&#8221;:&#8221;&#8221;,&#8221;typeof&#8221;:&#8221;foaf:Image&#8221;,&#8221;width&#8221;:&#8221;960&#8243;}}]]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Above: Thomas Hoepker Photo By: Rene Burri \/ Magnum Photos<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Hoepker became a master at observing Ali from afar and emphasized how important it was for him to capture Ali\u2019s ever-changing personality \u2014 a superstar who could be the most brutal boxer in the ring, but also a gentle man who wrote poetry and loved performing magic tricks for children.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere were days when I didn\u2019t take any pictures where he might not even come to an appointment, but the good thing was he went to the gym every day so we knew at one point he would show up in the gym because he was constantly in training,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ve never forced him to do something he might not want. We did not do any long interviews \u2014 we never sat down with a tape recorder asking questions.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Hoepker went on to share the tale of how he was there when Ali first met his second wife in Chicago.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHe stopped the driver and went in a bakery, but we were surprised because he was on a strict diet of steak and water,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p>Hoepker laughs as he tells the story of how Ali continued to drive around the city, stopping in the bakery every hour or so, when finally Hoepker followed him inside only to realize that Ali was not interested in the donuts \u2014 he was interested in the baker\u2019s daughter.<\/p>\n<p>The stories are endless from Hoepker and when asked to describe his own photographs, he was incredibly modest.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI was more interested in Ali as a person than Ali as a boxer, and I think that may be my advantage,\u201d he says. \u201cThere are a lot of pictures from any fight, there are many sports photographers, but mine are more behind the scenes, and I like that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Thomas Hoepker maintains membership at the world\u2019s most prestigious photographic agency, Magnum Photos, and has no plans of stopping his life\u2019s work as a photographer anytime soon. When we spoke in November, he\u2019d just gotten back home in Southampton, NY from a 4-week long assignment in South Korea, and was preparing for two new exhibits in Switzerland and Germany. 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